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The US Capitol dome is seen from the entrance to the House Intelligence Committee's hearing during the closed-door deposition of Mark Sandy. Photo: REUTERS

Trump impeachment investigators question White House budget official over decision to withhold funding from Ukraine

  • Mark Sandy, a little known career official at the Office of Management and Budget, was involved in key meetings about the nearly US$400 million aid package

Impeachment investigators met on Saturday with a White House official directly connected to US President Donald Trump’s block on military aid to Ukraine, the first budget office witness to testify in the historic inquiry.

In a rare weekend session, lawmakers drilled into Trump’s decision – against the advice of national security advisers, including John Bolton – to withhold funding from the ally, a young democracy bordering hostile Russia.

It is a sign of a deepening of the constitutional showdown, bookended by public hearings this week and next, that is testing the system of checks and balances in the US government.

“It seems clear to me from everything that I’ve seen that the president had no interest in the defence of Ukraine and the security of the Ukrainian people,” said Rep. Jamie Raskin, a Maryland Democrat, during a break in the closed-door proceedings.

Republican Representative Mark Meadows, joined at left by Democrat Representative Lee Zeldin speaks to reporters as Mark Sandy, a career employee in the White House Office of Management and Budget, is interviewed in a secure room at the Capitol in the House impeachment inquiry. Photo: AP Photo

Raskin said it is important for lawmakers “to trace the bureaucratic steps” that allowed money Congress had already approved to be upheld by the executive branch. “We’re in the process of chasing that down.”

The witness Saturday was Mark Sandy, a little known career official at the Office of Management and Budget who was involved in key meetings about the nearly US$400 million aid package Congress had already approved for Ukraine.

Sandy’s name has barely come up in previous testimony. But it did on one particular date: July 25, the day of Trump’s call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the core of the impeachment probe.

That day, a legal document with Sandy’s signature directed a freeze of the security funds, according to testimony from Defence Department official Laura Cooper. Investigators had shown her a document as evidence.

Trump on the call had asked Zelensky for a “favour,” to conduct an investigation into Democratic rival Joe Biden and his son.

The link between Trump’s call and the White House’s upholding of security aid is the central question in the impeachment inquiry.

Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi calls it “bribery.” Trump, who says he only wanted to root out corruption in Ukraine, says he did nothing wrong.

The weeks that followed left officials in the US national security and foreign service apparatus scrambling to understand why the aid was being blocked, despite their consensus view that Zelensky needed the money as a show of US support for his new government facing down President Vladimir Putin’s Russia.

“We were trying to get to the bottom of why this hold was in place, why OMB was applying this hold,” Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman, an Army officer at the National Security Council, told investigators. He is expected to testify publicly on Tuesday.

US President Donald Trump. Photo: AFP

Bolton derided the swap as a “drug deal” he wanted no part of, according to closed-door testimony from Fiona Hill, the former White House Russia expert. She is set to appear on Thursday.

Sharpening the arguments, both sides are preparing for an intense line-up of public hearings in the coming week. Americans are deeply split over impeachment, much as they are over the president himself.

For Ukraine, a former Soviet republic situated between Nato-allies and Russia, the US$391 million in aid is its lifeline to the West. The money is symbolic, the ousted US Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch testified this week, but also substantial.

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It includes US$250 million in Pentagon funding for military hardware: sniper rifles, rocket-propelled grenade launchers, counter-artillery radars, electronic warfare detection, secure communications, night vision capabilities and military medical aid.

An additional US$141 million in State Department funding covers many of those systems as well as about US$10 million to increase maritime awareness and US$16.5 million for maritime security in the Black Sea, aimed at identifying and tracking Russian ships and aircraft.

“Supporting Ukraine is the right thing to do,” Yovanovitch testified. “If Russia prevails and Ukraine falls to Russian dominion, we can expect to see other attempts by Russia to expand its territory and influence.”

Sandy was the first official from the Office of Management and Budget to defy Trump’s instructions not to testify. Like others, he received a subpoena to appear.

“When people come in, we learn more,” said Rep. Eric Swawell, a California Democrat and member of the House Intelligence Committee, as he arrived for Saturday’s session.

Rep. Mark Meadows, a top Trump ally, said he did not expect to hear much from Sandy, a career budget official.

“All I expect him to say is he doesn’t know why the aid was held and wished that he did,” said Meadows, who represents North Carolina. “But I may be surprised.”

In a speech on Friday night, Attorney General William Barr said congressional Democrats were pursuing “scores of parallel investigations through an avalanche of subpoenas” that are “designed to incapacitate the executive branch”.

Barr, who favours an expansive view of executive power, said “the cost of this constant harassment is real”.

Rep. Adam Schiff, the chairman of the impeachment panel, returned home Saturday to California where thousands of Democratic activists greeted him like a rock star at the state party’s fall convention.

“It’s been an eventful week,” he told the crowd before saying that his remarks about impeachment were no cause for celebration.

“There is nothing more dangerous than an unethical president who thinks that he is above the law,” Schiff said. “This is a time of great peril.”

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